Liar Liar Liar

I can honestly say that I did not look anything up about this podcast prior to my last blog, but in my last post I think I nailed it on the head. Mr. Daisey was fabricating a good amount of his story and I still do not understand his motive to do so. Besides a brief “15 minutes of fame”, there is no conceivable reason why this man would come at such a large company like Apple. I find it to be absolutely pathetic on his part that in order to get some attention he had to lie to gain attention and I would hope that most grown men would have stopped that kind of behavior in middle school.

I think the fabrication that I would like to discuss is the fact that his translator Cathy was not able to be found after and he was not able to get in touch with her. I understand that this may have given the story a little extra “mystery”/intrigue, but it could be and was easily discovered that he was lying. A simple GOOGLE search found that Mr. Daisey was blatantly lying and the exact translator was the first that was found online . Why would Mr. Daisey lie about the translator? Well I believe that it was because it the translator could not be found, no one would be able to prove that he was fabricating a portion of his “account”. I truly wonder if Mr. Daisey planned for his “account” to be a malicious attack on Apple, but I do feel that, especially because he was caught lying, that Apple or even Foxxcon should take legal action against Mr. Daisey. I believe that Mr. Daisey should be held accountable for his slander of the companies’ names and he should be made an example of. If someone is going to make serious accusations, like the ones Mr. Daisey made, there needs to be physical evidence that proves that what is being said is 100% accurate.

I would also like to take this time to blame the station “this American Life” that aired the first playing of this. I honestly believe that Mr. Daisey came up to the show with his story and, without fact checking, they put him on the air as fast as possible, because all they cared about what their ratings and money, but not about the truth. I think this shows that there is a great deal of corruption in the media to this day and that not everything on podcasts, the news, television, radio startions, etc should be assumed to be 100% accurate. In my opinion, the retraction of Mr. Daisey’s story is not enough and there has to be a series of grave consequences for doing this or else it will never stop and many people will continuously lie to get attention in the media. In closing, I feel that Mr. Daisey and This American Life should be severly punished for what they had done and that Apple & Foxconn should sue and recover any loss in revenue that was due to this “account” by Mr. Daisey.

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15 responses to “Liar Liar Liar

  1. I agree that the major oversight by TAL was unacceptable. I find it shocking that not one person working for the radio show wouldn’t have noticed any possible fabrications by Mr. Daisey. I feel that there must have been at least a few people that would have enough knowledge of international affairs to recognize the vast web of lies that Mr. Daisey told. Or, at least, noticed something fishy in his dramatic storytelling. I don’t know of how much public humiliation TAL or Mr. Daisey experienced, but I hope that it was enough to emulate a punishment.

  2. I agree with the notion that Apple should consider taking legal action against Mr. Daisey for his fabrications. Daisey is accusing Apple of some pretty serious things, such as ignoring underage labor which I discussed in my post this week. I also think Apple could have a case against The American Life, for publishing the falsities as factual and for the horrible name of the podcast, “Mr. Daisey and the Apple Factory”. It wasn’t an Apple factory, it was Foxconn, and Foxconn produces for just about every electronics supplier out there. Even when they thought the story was true, they had some real nerve to call it “the Apple Factory”. In discussing the idea of Apple suing, I don’t think it would smart for it to be for a lot of money, but just to send a message that what was said was very wrong and to get the counter publicity they need to correct the wrongdoing.

    • I am not sure how libel lawsuits work. But, given that the general picture is quite accurate- there were lots of concerns about a host of working issues- I don’t think Apple Inc would really want to go to court with its subpoenas and witnesses and argue about how there is NO problem with working conditions in order to assert that Mike Daisey lied to them.

  3. I’m glad that you too believe that Mr. Daisey is immature. He correctly believes that the theater is a place for social commentary and commenting upon injustices. However, he missed the minor detail that the plays do not include real names and real places. Playwrights usually assume the audience the benefit of the doubt in believing they can figure out what is really going on.

    After reading this, I am thinking twice about Bucknell’s decision to portray this piece on campus. I don’t think Daisey deserves the fame. If done, I believe it should be a piece critiquing the play itself more-so than Foxconn and Apple, which could be immensely difficult. I’d be interested to know other people’s thoughts on this.

    • The tech/no series is not paying anything to Mike Daisey. He made his script freely available.

      Why not do our own “interrupted” version? What is the downside?

  4. The Cathy lie is also one of the biggest in my book. I understand that even legendary and prominent journalists such as Walter Cronkite are known to make a mistake from time to time but the actions of TAL in airing Daisy’s absurd adventure without insisting on speaking with one of the main characters amazes me. Unless Daisey was also lying about his fluency in Mandarin, it is Cathy’s translation that holds the entire “account” together. Taking him at his word was reckless and poor journalism on the part of TAL.

    • I had a different thought about Kathy. How free is she to speak her mind? Are her corporate clients going to wonder whose side she is on? Or, is she proud of China and didn’t like MD trashing her country? How do we know her account is accurate to the point of calling Mike Daisey a liar? It gets complicated.

  5. To speak to your comment, I feel that you hit the nail on the head with this blog yet again. Mr. Daisey was trying to get himself into the spotlight at the expense of Apple and Foxconn. I will say that his intentions of bringing the conditions to light were admirable, but he did it in the wrong way. But the comment that caught my attention to the most was when you mentioned the corruption in the media. It has always been clear to me that certain news stations have a certain political bias, but I have never really considered them to be corrupt. It is certainly something to consider though when you are reading/listening to the news.

  6. I think that bias in the media is a major issue in today’s world. It the large companies that own the news outlets use their power and control to protect their business interests all over the world. I would not be surprised if the lack of coverage of poor labor practices was due to companies like foxconn who use their money and influence to hide the crimes they are committing.

  7. I agree with James, the enormity of these companies wealth has allowed them to effectively control what’s being said about themselves. When the phone hacking scandal came out at News of the World, didn’t it seem a little suspicious that the paper was owned by Newscorp? While this doesn’t obviously apply to all the papers, these conflicts of interest are something that need to be rectified.

  8. Ok, you all have to explain to me why “getting into the spotlight” is a motivation for Mike Daisey. Who cares that much about media attention? Did you listen to him? He explains his motivations. 1) He is an actor and he performed the show “The Agony and Ecstasy of Steve Jobs” as a one man show. Why do actors perform? Money and creative impulse. 2) He realized that his own love of Apple products (very clear in the original and in the transcript) had left him blind to where they come from. He wanted to tell that story for his audience.

    Why is making crap up to get “in the media” more compelling than he is an actor?


  9. I think that challenging TAL and Mr. Daisey is the proper approach to remedy the situation. But, I do not think punishing TAL or Mr. Daisey financially is the right response. Whats done is done, there is no more damage being done. Mr. Daisey made up the story to draw attention to the faults by factory workers overall. Foxconn does more than just manufacture apple products. There are two major points that should be remembered from this situation. The first being that TAL and similar programs and websites should check the facts before publishing as the absolute truth. Second, Mr. Daisey may have lied and or stretched his account of Foxconn; but he did get his point across. Mr. Daisey believed he would get away with his lies. He did not, but he was able to draw more attention to Apple and similar factories producing American goods. Hopefully, it will lead to change and benefit the welfare of the factory workers.

  10. “Why would Mr. Daisey lie about the translator? Well I believe that it was because it the translator could not be found, no one would be able to prove that he was fabricating a portion of his “account”.” This quote is the main reason why I believe Mike Daisy is a fraud. He didn’t want to get caught and he knew by giving up the contact information for Cathy, it would take away from the credibility of his performance. Yes he said that fabrication is part of theatre, but why was it so hard for him to explain that in the first place?

  11. Throughout the podcast, Mr. Daisey takes long pauses and continues to stress how he felt “trapped” and “terrified” knowing there was a chance that the truth could eventually surface. He admits that after a certain point he knew that the story should have been killed, but that that point he was already too deep into his web of lies to do anything about it. Clearly his main focus here was to “get into the spotlight” and make it big in the media by telling a story he knew that most Americans could relate to. He was so focused on telling a good story that he got carried away and added events to the story that he knew would make an impact on the audience. I think that claiming he was an actor was just a cover up to explain why his story was not completely factual as it would have been if he was a journalist.

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